Comments for fertile mind http://fertilemind.wordpress.com Just another WordPress.com weblog Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:42:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on IVF cycle cancelled by Ellie http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/ivf-cycle-cancelled/#comment-77 Ellie Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:42:35 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=35#comment-77 SP- Hey, it's been a while, but I was waiting on my second opinion. We had a mtg with the new doc last Friday. What an amzing difference! I felt like I could trust him. I did alot of research on him on the internet and he comes very highly recommended...that, and he's just amzingly nice and kind and gentle. He took a whole hour with us. He explained things the way I'd never heard them explained. So, here's what he said on high FSH: Basically, all of the IVF drugs are FSH...so, you have to imagine it's like a car and the accelerator. If your body has high FSH, then it's working on its own to press the pedal as far as it can. High FSH the pedal is say, 3/4 of the way to the floor. Adding IVF drugs only floors the pedal that extra little distance...which might not be enough. So...while I disn't like the second opinion, I at least understand it. My body has pressed the pedal pretty far, I was on the highest dosages of IVF meds (300 am and 300pm= 600, the highest), and that didn't get more than my natural one follicle. So, he doesn't recommend another IVF. He'll do it, if we push for it, but he doesn't think the results would be different. So, I said I need to try everything with my body that I can. He said he would try to help, naturally. He would work with us to observe the growth of the monthly follicle, he would time the cycle for ovulation as best he can, he would use an HCG tigger shot to force the LH surge, and he could do IUI's on us a few times, to see if that helps. We start those in Dec. Then, we'll remain hopeful and see what happens. I'm really really interested to hear how your naturopath option is going! That's another really interesting avenue, a combination of herbs, accupuncture, etc? SP-
Hey, it’s been a while, but I was waiting on my second opinion. We had a mtg with the new doc last Friday. What an amzing difference! I felt like I could trust him. I did alot of research on him on the internet and he comes very highly recommended…that, and he’s just amzingly nice and kind and gentle. He took a whole hour with us. He explained things the way I’d never heard them explained.
So, here’s what he said on high FSH: Basically, all of the IVF drugs are FSH…so, you have to imagine it’s like a car and the accelerator. If your body has high FSH, then it’s working on its own to press the pedal as far as it can. High FSH the pedal is say, 3/4 of the way to the floor. Adding IVF drugs only floors the pedal that extra little distance…which might not be enough.
So…while I disn’t like the second opinion, I at least understand it. My body has pressed the pedal pretty far, I was on the highest dosages of IVF meds (300 am and 300pm= 600, the highest), and that didn’t get more than my natural one follicle. So, he doesn’t recommend another IVF. He’ll do it, if we push for it, but he doesn’t think the results would be different.
So, I said I need to try everything with my body that I can. He said he would try to help, naturally. He would work with us to observe the growth of the monthly follicle, he would time the cycle for ovulation as best he can, he would use an HCG tigger shot to force the LH surge, and he could do IUI’s on us a few times, to see if that helps. We start those in Dec.
Then, we’ll remain hopeful and see what happens.
I’m really really interested to hear how your naturopath option is going! That’s another really interesting avenue, a combination of herbs, accupuncture, etc?

]]> Comment on by lostintranslation http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/102/#comment-74 lostintranslation Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:21:13 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-74 Hey splitpea, how are you? I've been thinking a lot about you lately. Hope you were able to take a bit of a break from it all and that maybe that could help you in deciding what to do next. I know it's a very difficult process and there are no ready answers. Don't be too hard on yourself though (I know, easy to say) - keep the faith. -Lost Hey splitpea, how are you? I’ve been thinking a lot about you lately. Hope you were able to take a bit of a break from it all and that maybe that could help you in deciding what to do next. I know it’s a very difficult process and there are no ready answers. Don’t be too hard on yourself though (I know, easy to say) – keep the faith. -Lost

]]> Comment on by Crystal http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/102/#comment-73 Crystal Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:33:05 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-73 I appreciate your blog. I did not realize grief was what I was feeling until months later...and after anti-depresasnts that I did not need. I will be opening myself up to it all again as I gear towards my first IVF. Your blog has been very helpful- thank you. -Crystal I appreciate your blog. I did not realize grief was what I was feeling until months later…and after anti-depresasnts that I did not need. I will be opening myself up to it all again as I gear towards my first IVF. Your blog has been very helpful- thank you.
-Crystal

]]> Comment on by lostintranslation http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/102/#comment-72 lostintranslation Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:41:21 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-72 eh... of course that should have been 'yoga for fertility' in my previous post... eh… of course that should have been ‘yoga for fertility’ in my previous post…

]]> Comment on by lostintranslation http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/102/#comment-71 lostintranslation Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:28:08 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-71 Hey Splitpea, Thanks so much for keeping on blogging, even though you don't really feel like it. And sorry for not thanking you earlier for your great post on my blog, I've been a little self-centered lately, I guess... I can understand your ambivalence about the alternative medicine, especially after you've tried it already several times. I did acupuncture two years ago, but it didn't seem to have made a lot of difference (although I tried to think that it did), and I also have a 'yoga for infertility' DVD, but that one just makes me cry... Hang in there! Lost Hey Splitpea,
Thanks so much for keeping on blogging, even though you don’t really feel like it. And sorry for not thanking you earlier for your great post on my blog, I’ve been a little self-centered lately, I guess…
I can understand your ambivalence about the alternative medicine, especially after you’ve tried it already several times. I did acupuncture two years ago, but it didn’t seem to have made a lot of difference (although I tried to think that it did), and I also have a ‘yoga for infertility’ DVD, but that one just makes me cry…
Hang in there!
Lost

]]> Comment on by keystoclaritycoach http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/102/#comment-70 keystoclaritycoach Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:48:54 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=102#comment-70 Hi SplitPea, So glad to see you blogging. Yes, it does sound like you are in the middle of the grieving process. Unfortunately, its not such a straight forward process during infertility, as we can vascillate back and forth between the stages too. Is it possible to have acceptance without placing meaning on the experience - to just see it as an experience? , or to think about a meaning which might give it some inspirational meaning for you, rather than being judged by a higher power? I am sending thoughts of strength and courage to you! . lovingly yours, Coach Louise www.lifebalancinfertilitycoach.wordpress.com Hi SplitPea,

So glad to see you blogging. Yes, it does sound like you are in the middle of the grieving process. Unfortunately, its not such a straight forward process during infertility, as we can vascillate back and forth between the stages too. Is it possible to have acceptance without placing meaning on the experience – to just see it as an experience? , or to think about a meaning which might give it some inspirational meaning for you, rather than being judged by a higher power? I am sending thoughts of strength and courage to you!
.
lovingly yours,
Coach Louise
http://www.lifebalancinfertilitycoach.wordpress.com

]]> Comment on IVF cycle cancelled by splitpea http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/ivf-cycle-cancelled/#comment-68 splitpea Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:31:27 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=35#comment-68 Hi Ellie I am so far from being an expert on this stuff it's not funny. So there's no way I can offer an educated opinion. It does SEEM like our situations are similar in that we are both having trouble producing eggs even with high dosages of stimulation. Like I said, this in itself for me is incredibly sad. I torture myself imagining what it was that I did to make that happen. In my very humble and un-educated opinion I think that because you said you're not convinced you've done everything you can with your own body - maybe you need to explore that some more. When I can get my head straight I think I'll probably begin a fertility program with a naturopath, which will take at least 3 months. I too, am not quite ready to give up on my body. Having said that, it's different for everyone and when you've had enough, no matter what stage you're at, it will be enough. I sympathise with wanting a second opinion. It's the kind of thing I would do too. It will either give you hope or confirm what your current doctor is saying. Both of those outcomes might be helpful. Personally, donor eggs and adoption are not on my radar no matter what happens. But if you can imagine those scenarios being an option for you then maybe the thing to do is hold them as the back up plan and give your body another chance - in whatever way that makes sense to you. SP Hi Ellie
I am so far from being an expert on this stuff it’s not funny. So there’s no way I can offer an educated opinion. It does SEEM like our situations are similar in that we are both having trouble producing eggs even with high dosages of stimulation. Like I said, this in itself for me is incredibly sad. I torture myself imagining what it was that I did to make that happen.
In my very humble and un-educated opinion I think that because you said you’re not convinced you’ve done everything you can with your own body – maybe you need to explore that some more. When I can get my head straight I think I’ll probably begin a fertility program with a naturopath, which will take at least 3 months. I too, am not quite ready to give up on my body. Having said that, it’s different for everyone and when you’ve had enough, no matter what stage you’re at, it will be enough.
I sympathise with wanting a second opinion. It’s the kind of thing I would do too. It will either give you hope or confirm what your current doctor is saying. Both of those outcomes might be helpful.
Personally, donor eggs and adoption are not on my radar no matter what happens. But if you can imagine those scenarios being an option for you then maybe the thing to do is hold them as the back up plan and give your body another chance – in whatever way that makes sense to you.
SP

]]> Comment on IVF cycle cancelled by Ellie http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/ivf-cycle-cancelled/#comment-67 Ellie Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:36:50 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=35#comment-67 SplitPea- Thank you so much for your kind words. Do you know what options, if any, there might be? They've told us about donor egg and adoption, but I just am not convinced I've done everything I can with my own body. I only went 2 weeks of shots and then was canceled, how is that possible? Should I get a second opinion? go to another RE? It would require some travel, but I'm not sure I can quite rollover and play dead on this yet. Thoughts? SplitPea-
Thank you so much for your kind words. Do you know what options, if any, there might be? They’ve told us about donor egg and adoption, but I just am not convinced I’ve done everything I can with my own body. I only went 2 weeks of shots and then was canceled, how is that possible? Should I get a second opinion? go to another RE? It would require some travel, but I’m not sure I can quite rollover and play dead on this yet. Thoughts?

]]> Comment on Me and my Vagus by lostintranslation http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/me-and-my-vagus/#comment-61 lostintranslation Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:04:30 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=96#comment-61 Thanks so much for sharing your experiences and feelings! You've even inspired me to start my own blog (http://ivf-fiv.blogspot.com/). Take it easy - a friend of mine, who went through (too) many IVF attempts once told me that a positive side off it all, was that they took a lot of vacations to recharge their batteries... Thanks so much for sharing your experiences and feelings! You’ve even inspired me to start my own blog (http://ivf-fiv.blogspot.com/). Take it easy – a friend of mine, who went through (too) many IVF attempts once told me that a positive side off it all, was that they took a lot of vacations to recharge their batteries…

]]> Comment on Me and my Vagus by keystoclaritycoach http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/me-and-my-vagus/#comment-60 keystoclaritycoach Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:30:15 +0000 http://fertilemind.wordpress.com/?p=96#comment-60 Hi SP, So glad to see you blogging again, and so sorry to hear of your dismal experience. Your local anaesthetic experience sounded pretty awful! I've had some pretty reasonable experiences with a general (everyone is different tho') in fact the last time I came out of retrieval, and was recovering from the anaesthetic, I actually had the giggles! First time that has happened! very weird. I have also been in your situation with only 2 embryos - but you just never know... I was also reminded that it only takes 1. which is true. Give yourself some time to recover, just remember you did your best, and that the outcome is not within your control. And you don't have to decide right now, what the next step will be.... love, and warm fuzzy hugs to you, Coach Louise Hi SP,

So glad to see you blogging again, and so sorry to hear of your dismal experience. Your local anaesthetic experience sounded pretty awful! I’ve had some pretty reasonable experiences with a general (everyone is different tho’) in fact the last time I came out of retrieval, and was recovering from the anaesthetic, I actually had the giggles! First time that has happened! very weird. I have also been in your situation with only 2 embryos – but you just never know… I was also reminded that it only takes 1. which is true. Give yourself some time to recover, just remember you did your best, and that the outcome is not within your control. And you don’t have to decide right now, what the next step will be….

love, and warm fuzzy hugs to you,
Coach Louise

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